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dark_virus
Date Registered: 04.2004
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I think Psycle deserves this feature.
Is there a simple VST plugin to randomize velocities in instruments like hihats, maracas, shakers, or even snares? I tried Psycle's native flanger, but didn't like the results. The wah wah, altough amazing for synths and pads, isn't what I'm searching for this task.
I don't like to load/configure a single sample for each hit. So, if someone have a sugestion about it (VST or even a tip) I'll be forever grateful!
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There's a plan to improve or make another machine similar to note duplicator, which should allow to send different parameters. In some way, a "instruments screen" of a machine. There were plans for LFO and Automation (user-defined envelope, triggered, which applies to a machine or set of machines), but those efforts were partly stopped when moving onto linux.
I would expect these things to get a go again once the linux version is on par with what we have now (we're getting there)
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dark_virus
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I don't think that "random VCF" and "random panning" features are so important. In truth, I'd like to know if someone uses it....
On another hand, if there were a checkb-box with this kind of feature, it'll be a gain of workflow. Hope to see the new habilities planned for Psycle soon! 
So... is there a VST for a task like this?
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shadowbane
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you could use the command CCXX, xx being random velocities.
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TranceMyriad
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Yes, but then you have to do the randomising yourself - still not really a solution 
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shadowbane
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still, it is better than nothing.
also, if you input your notes with a midi keyboard and enable tweaks velocitys will be recorded and there will be inherent randomization
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dark_virus
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Sorry but I can get it, shadowbane. I tried this command (like C-4 00 00 CC88, for example), and nothing happens. I don't use MIDI/keyboards, so could you elaborate a bit?
But it would be cool if there were a plugin with this feature. Kinda, set a up/down limit for the randomness, and the samples plays at different velocities.
I think it's time to have some conversation with our brothers from KVR audio.
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zealan
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0Cxx
all commands can be found in Docs/tweaking.txt
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dark_virus
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quote: Original by zealan
0Cxx
all commands can be found in Docs/tweaking.txt
Thanks, but I know this command already. In fact, I use it all the time.
What we're talking here is about velocities, but I'm unable to use shadowbane's command. 
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mutilus
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Do you mean randomise volume? If so, you can do a bit of a hack, that may do what you want. Have a sampler, load your sample, and give it randomised panning. Run the sampler through a machine that can convert to mono, e.g. Haas or zstereo. The random panning then gives random volumes instead.
e.g. http://psycle.free.fr/mutilus/random_volume.psy
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TranceMyriad
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^^ Clever. 
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dark_virus
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quote: Original by TranceMyriad
^^ Clever. 
Yes! For sure!
But, no. It isn't what I'm trying to do. This could be easier if I'd set a gainer automation curve, so I can have even more control about the volumes of each hit. Easy enough.
That's not the case. I want random VELOCITIES or, at least, a way of controlling them automatically. Think of a drummer playing a hihat pattern: each hits has different volumes but different velocities/pitches too, depending how he hits the hats.
But I think there isn't a free plugin for this task. Did a search on KVR, and nothing. 
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@mutilus: I downloaded your example, but was unable to find what plugin it is. However it's not a problem, since I use Kelly Industries Stereo Tools for this very same task.
Here's what I'm trying to do (without the hassle of editing every sample)
http://www.4shared.com/file/46404465/83a...rified=67a5d2d8
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zealan
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ah. what you want to do is to automate envelope times (decay)
with velocity most people mean midi velocity (how hard you hit the key)
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dark_virus
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quote: Original by zealan
ah. what you want to do is to automate envelope times (decay)
with velocity most people mean midi velocity (how hard you hit the key)
BINGO!
I know nothing about MIDI...
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