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I've been messing around with psycle and the various instruments, but even with a mess of effects, I can't seem to come up with a good Jungle/Dark-step style bass growl... Like one would hear in almost all of Ed Rush and Optical's disks...

Can anyone give me any suggestions?

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there's a new psycle native synth on the way with a good pulse waveform + imbedded phase and chorus effects, which will probably help you for this

it will surely be released with 1.6final so be patient


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Ok, so that's the sort of machine I'm looking for then?

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You could also try playing with ASynth(with LFOs maybe)+Distortion+2PFilter(+Flanger etc)

at least I have made a few dark basses with those..

.if I remember right, mda dx10 had also some useful presets..


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Ah, ok... Now we are getting somewhere... I had to string together two different distortion machines in order to get it to sound crunchy enough... But I'll try playing with that MDA vst as well...

What's LFO? Lowpass filter?

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Low Frequency Oscillator, If i'm not mistaken...


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Exactly!! they are used over the main OSCs


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Never mind, got it now... Still doesn't sound that good, but then again, ~I'm~ not that good at this still.

Thanks everyone.

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Try to download Muon Tau VST and connect it to some effects, also VST...

maybe you could obtain a good bass...

or find a sample and use it =]

cheers

http://ladproject.cjb.net


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hi

Some good Dnb basses canbe made using AS2f imho.

Use the following setup:
1st osc: Pulse
2nd osc: pulse detuned -12

long attack to get the waaaaa sound.

Try to shape the filter enveloppe and lfos(which are some slow oscilaltors which affect one parameter-cut off, verb, pitch, whatever). If you wanna get some dirty sound: don't lower the cut off too much.

use a distorsion in some crunchy preset. No need to get trash metal all up disto. Try to tweak the sync in order to get just a good signal boost.

Try to plug the whole to a light verb with room or small hall presets. You could also add a Cross delay, depending on what u wanna get exactly.

Finally, if u wanna get a warmer sound i woudl plug the things liek this if i wer you:

as2f->Disto->VErb->(delay)->master
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|->filter(2 pole LP with cut off set low)->master

this will give ya two different bass sounds all compounding the same killer bass set. The phase difference between the two might make it sound really nice.

Is all i can do so far.....

greetz


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Hmm, I understand the rest, but what is 'pulse' osc? All I see is Sine, sawtooth, Square and so on..

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try the new FeedMe synth. use a pulse waveform (yes FeedMe has a pulse waveform). use chorus, phase and distortion at taste.
(option : use Tao's trick on this sound)

maybe this could sound good


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Okies, I'll try that.. But using OSC 1 as random and OSC 2 square at -12 tuning and the rest of his settings has he said has giving me something very very crunchy...

Now, to do something with it!

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hi
Well pulse=SQUARE but depends on the phase...
So lemme re- explain:
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osc1: SQUARE _| |_
osc2: square too but detuned one octave lower =-12

it's sure that using distorsion +chorus will produce several unwanted harmonics or a Crunchy sound. What you could do is to use an EQ before the distorsion or after it depending on how u set up that one. There are several free vst EQs, follow the links on the vst board.

If i find time i'll make a quick setup for you and post it on the boards...

TAo


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That would be great, actually, posting setups and settings for anything at all would be great.

But right now, based on your first message, I have a very wide and nasty sounding Bass buzz..

Now I just have to get back to programming the drum line.

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well,
i did a small template for ya
is maybe more IDMish taht jungle but.....

download it here

I hope it can suit ur needs


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Actually, that's not exactly what I was thinking of, but what you have there is brilliant, and something you just through together I'd imagine. Wow.

*Sighs* Wish I had a decent file host so I could show you the sound I've found that matches that Dieselboy or Ed Rush Jungle/Tech sound...

Please tell me you are doing something with this piece you sent me, It's very cool.

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hey thx

I figured out by making it i t was not exactly the sound u were looking for.

Anyway, try to tweak it a bit. Change the env and such


Cya round


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Here's what I came up with based off your first suggestion Tao...

http://homepages.wmich.edu/~f7belljr/556-2on1.psy

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