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[JAZ]
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  Asking for Bugs        Go on top to this Page

Hello.

Since the release of Psycle 1.8 is near, I want to have a look at the bugs which are annoying your experience.

I am asking for descriptions (more or less detailed), and, if possible, a way to reproduce it ( a .psy file, or steps to do).

If you have already posted one in the boards, then, post here a link to that thread (It is not needed that you copy it here).

I am aware of the Dilvie's wish list, sourceforge's bugtracking and Psycle's own todo.txt.
If you have other sources, then, post about it here.

Thanks to all and happy psycling


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Angelus
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  Modified theme save/load bug        Go on top to this Page


I don't know if there's a problem when you save it or when you load it, but if you modify a theme with its own skins (i.e. some pattern colours) and you save it with same/other name, when you load again that modified theme is loaded with the psycle default skins (the colours and other options are loaded correctly).

Example:

1. Load a theme that is not the default one. (i.e. rhino-red_dwarf.psv)

2. Save it (changing or without changing any colour/font option) with other name.

3. Load the new one.

4. You can see that the skin is changed by the psycle's default one.


If you make those changes and closes psycle, when you start agin psycle, the skin is loaded correctly. It only happens when you load that modified theme.


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  Sound Corruption        Go on top to this Page

I discovered in the latest Alpha 1.7.39 that after loading several songs, the sound gets corrupted and eventually their is no sound output, forcing a restart of psycle.


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sampler
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What drivers are u using js? ASIO, MME or DirectSound? Cos i have that problems sometimes with ASIO. Seems that driver gets frozen, but i don't need to restart Psycle, only re-set the audio device/driver.

I thought it could be good that everytime you press play the driver was reset. Is this reasonable??


Another thing talking of bugs, i still see some redrawing problems, i'll try to give more information.....


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vocalgrunster
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I would be happy to test the latest alpha but when i try to download it i get a .7z file.

give me a .rar a .zip a .ace a .lzh a .lha a .tar ... anything but a .7z file

sevenzip is maybe great but it comes with a fucking installer, i use psycle because i don't have to run a stupid installer...

the latest alpha that i have (psycle.mfc.bin.timestamp-2005.01.28.17.04.26.21.rar) is still crashin when doing a simple getDirectory(), the VSTHost seems to be very buggy

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What drivers are u using js? ASIO, MME or DirectSound? Cos i have that problems sometimes with ASIO. Seems that driver gets frozen, but i don't need to restart Psycle, only re-set the audio device/driver.

I thought it could be good that everytime you press play the driver was reset. Is this reasonable??
...



Sampler, it happens when i am using ASIO drivers (audiophile 2496 card). Pressing play to reset the driver sounds OK.


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Last edited by js on 20.04.2005, 06:50 o'clock.

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asdf
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i know i'm taking this thread even further away from the point, but

> sevenzip is maybe great but it comes with a fucking installer,
> i use psycle because i don't have to run a stupid installer...

here's a command-line version of 7-zip

http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourcef...zip/7za417b.zip

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Taika-Kim
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The pattern interpolate routines handles values very close to 00 wrong some times creating sequences like:
00
00
FF
FF
00
01
02
03
03
04
05
05
06
07
07
..
..

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js
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  To clone or copy ? That is the question !        Go on top to this Page

When I try to clone a series of sequenced patterns and then make changes to the newly cloned pattern, psycle also changes the original pattern. (This does'nt happen all the time)

Likewise, when I try to copy and paste a series of patterns, and then edit that pattern, psycle also modifies the original pattern, or visa versa.

Psycle can't seem to make up it's mind whether I am cloning something or copying something.

Now, my understanding of the definition of cloning, is that when you clone something (as in a scientific experiment) you make an exact replicar of the orginal, but the cloned specimen obtains its own independence from the original. That is, the orginal no longer controls the behaviour of the clone and visa versa.

On the other hand, copying implies a mimicking of behaviour, not necessarily inheritance of one object from another. Therefore, it seems logical that the copied object should change according to the orginal, and visa versa. Because they are now mirror images of each other.




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Last edited by js on 21.04.2005, 18:39 o'clock.

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[JAZ]
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quote:
Original by Taika-Kim
The pattern interpolate routines handles values very close to 00 wrong some times creating sequences like:


Please, can you give me the exact example? I can't reproduce it.


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When I try to clone a series of sequenced patterns and then make changes to the newly cloned pattern, psycle also changes the original pattern.



I can't reproduce the problem you talk about, but I know there is a problem sometimes when redrawing patterns, meaning you are not editing the pattern selected on the sequencer (Although i thought the problem was limited to song loading). If you can reproduce it, tell me the steps you follow so that I can verify it.


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JAZ, simply create 3 blocks of patterns. Select all three and then select clone. Then edit a cloned pattern and flick back to the original corresponding pattern and check whether the same change has been altered in this pattern.

Hope that's clearer


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Original by [JAZ]
Please, can you give me the exact example? I can't reproduce it.


Hmm, I tried this just yesterday manyt times but I downloaded a new alpha between and it doesn't happen anymore?

Great.

My song rendering problem is also gone, it seems.

Psycle wouldn't happen to use any Windows DLLs? I updated and re-installed everything I could imagine of today and a bunch of problems I've kept having with my computer disappeared...

Or then it's all just a coincidence.

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[JAZ]
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Lets see.. the clone button creates a new pattern (it has a different number). Selecting a group of patterns, clones all them, one at a time.

copy/paste does not create a new pattern, (it maintains the number).

I have done what you say, in both, 1.7.6.1 and latest alpha and it works correctly. (btw.. i've only tried with notes)


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sampler
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one thing Josep.

Clicking bug finally was solved, but i think only if Double Graphic is disabled. If it's enabled clickings exist and i need to enable double buffer to avoid redrawing problems....... or is totally fixed in latest alpha? maybe i don't have the latest...


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Sometimes (impossible for me to replicate) when restarting psycle, psycle does not restart. Instead it loads itself into memory (on winxp), and each time an attempt is made to restart psycle, it creates another instance of itself loaded into memory. This is annoying, because I can't use psycle and it is impossible to remove it from the task manager. The only solution is to restart the computer !


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quote:
Original by js Sometimes (impossible for me to replicate) when restarting psycle, psycle does not restart. Instead it loads itself into memory (on winxp), and each time an attempt is made to restart psycle, it creates another instance of itself loaded into memory. This is annoying, because I can't use psycle and it is impossible to remove it from the task manager. The only solution is to restart the computer !

Hmmm...? No task quitting? If I understood you correctly, then you SHOULD be able to quit each individual task of Psycle (in the process window), then it should be able to restart (this is my own experience).

Anyway, I'm happy a certain VSTi, which crashed constantly in 1.7.39, hasn't crashed ONCE since upgrading to 1.7.40 !

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DMNX,

Let me assure you, I am a very experienced windows user. I know it sounds weird but on my machine it's a fact. I will take your advice and give 1.7.40 a try.

Cheers


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DMNXS could you please tell me wich vsti is working now that wasnt before?

thanks...

ta ta...

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Lets see.. the clone button creates a new pattern (it has a different number). Selecting a group of patterns, clones all them, one at a time.

copy/paste does not create a new pattern, (it maintains the number).

I have done what you say, in both, 1.7.6.1 and latest alpha and it works correctly. (btw.. i've only tried with notes)



JAZ, it appears that I am not the only one having this problem:

Please click on the link below...

http://psycle.pastnotecut.org/thread.php...did=1&styleid=2


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That happens with me too sometimes, but I'm able to kill it from the task manager.

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