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From dark_virus on 25.04.2008, 01:05:

  Randomize velocities

I think Psycle deserves this feature.

Is there a simple VST plugin to randomize velocities in instruments like hihats, maracas, shakers, or even snares? I tried Psycle's native flanger, but didn't like the results. The wah wah, altough amazing for synths and pads, isn't what I'm searching for this task.

I don't like to load/configure a single sample for each hit. So, if someone have a sugestion about it (VST or even a tip) I'll be forever grateful!


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From [JAZ] on 25.04.2008, 18:54:

 

There's a plan to improve or make another machine similar to note duplicator, which should allow to send different parameters. In some way, a "instruments screen" of a machine. There were plans for LFO and Automation (user-defined envelope, triggered, which applies to a machine or set of machines), but those efforts were partly stopped when moving onto linux.

I would expect these things to get a go again once the linux version is on par with what we have now (we're getting there)


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From dark_virus on 26.04.2008, 04:52:

 

I don't think that "random VCF" and "random panning" features are so important. In truth, I'd like to know if someone uses it....

On another hand, if there were a checkb-box with this kind of feature, it'll be a gain of workflow. Hope to see the new habilities planned for Psycle soon!

So... is there a VST for a task like this?


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From shadowbane on 27.04.2008, 22:59:

 

you could use the command CCXX, xx being random velocities.


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From TranceMyriad on 28.04.2008, 08:13:

 

Yes, but then you have to do the randomising yourself - still not really a solution


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From shadowbane on 29.04.2008, 00:10:

 

still, it is better than nothing.

also, if you input your notes with a midi keyboard and enable tweaks velocitys will be recorded and there will be inherent randomization


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From dark_virus on 29.04.2008, 01:48:

 

Sorry but I can get it, shadowbane. I tried this command (like C-4 00 00 CC88, for example), and nothing happens. I don't use MIDI/keyboards, so could you elaborate a bit?

But it would be cool if there were a plugin with this feature. Kinda, set a up/down limit for the randomness, and the samples plays at different velocities.

I think it's time to have some conversation with our brothers from KVR audio.


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From zealan on 03.05.2008, 02:03:

 

0Cxx

all commands can be found in Docs/tweaking.txt


From dark_virus on 03.05.2008, 05:08:

 

quote:
Original by zealan
0Cxx

all commands can be found in Docs/tweaking.txt


Thanks, but I know this command already. In fact, I use it all the time.

What we're talking here is about velocities, but I'm unable to use shadowbane's command.


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From mutilus on 03.05.2008, 17:08:

 

Do you mean randomise volume? If so, you can do a bit of a hack, that may do what you want. Have a sampler, load your sample, and give it randomised panning. Run the sampler through a machine that can convert to mono, e.g. Haas or zstereo. The random panning then gives random volumes instead.

e.g. http://psycle.free.fr/mutilus/random_volume.psy


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From TranceMyriad on 04.05.2008, 11:07:

 

^^ Clever.


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From dark_virus on 04.05.2008, 19:59:

 

quote:
Original by TranceMyriad
^^ Clever.


Yes! For sure!

But, no. It isn't what I'm trying to do. This could be easier if I'd set a gainer automation curve, so I can have even more control about the volumes of each hit. Easy enough.

That's not the case. I want random VELOCITIES or, at least, a way of controlling them automatically. Think of a drummer playing a hihat pattern: each hits has different volumes but different velocities/pitches too, depending how he hits the hats.

But I think there isn't a free plugin for this task. Did a search on KVR, and nothing.


EDIT:

@mutilus: I downloaded your example, but was unable to find what plugin it is. However it's not a problem, since I use Kelly Industries Stereo Tools for this very same task.


Here's what I'm trying to do (without the hassle of editing every sample)

http://www.4shared.com/file/46404465/83a...rified=67a5d2d8


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From zealan on 05.05.2008, 01:05:

 

ah. what you want to do is to automate envelope times (decay)

with velocity most people mean midi velocity (how hard you hit the key)


From dark_virus on 05.05.2008, 03:06:

 

quote:
Original by zealan
ah. what you want to do is to automate envelope times (decay)

with velocity most people mean midi velocity (how hard you hit the key)


BINGO!

I know nothing about MIDI...


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